Harry =Anakin?

Muggle Joined: Jul 05, 2003 Posts: 9

I kinda noticed some similarities between anakin skywalker and harry. I mean both of them flipped out when somone they loved die and did something illegal...

Harry used an unforgivable curse on bellatrix

and Anakin ruthlessly slaughtered a camp of sand people when his mother died.

You think harry will turn dark? I dont really think he will but i couldnt help noticing the similarities.

Post subject: Re: Harry =Anakin? Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2003 11:27 PM

No I don't think Harry will turn dark. I think the underlying mythology is different in the two stories. In HP, as Dumbledore points out, Harry's emotions are his strength. He is encouraged to feel, to love, to rage, to experience his strong emotions.

In SW, Anakin's emotions are his weakness. I love the SW stories, but I think the Jedi credo is incredibly, stupidly repressive. No wonder they all died out or turned dark. No love.

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Post subject: Re: Harry =Anakin? Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 01:13 AM

AHAH!!! someone else noticed this too! I have a thread in this forum- "Harry.. evil?" or something similar- it's all the way on the third page- talks all about it- and the Anakin thing stood out to me- it's one of the things that made me think it, well besides not liking the 5th book. Although, for some reason, I did not put it in the thread... not sure why... brain lapse...

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1st Year Joined: Jun 14, 2004 Posts: 34

My husband is a big Star Wars fan and yes the characters and movies do have similarities, but I don't think that Harry is going to become evil. This isn't Star Wars, this is Harry Potter. I do believe that Harry has thought that he was evil or could be evil in the second book. Dumbledore told him that it was his choices he makes in life. When he questioned whether he should be in Slytherin or Gryffindor. Harry could be evil but only if he chooses to be and I don't think Harry will.

Post subject: Re: Harry =Anakin? Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 11:17 AM

Yes. That is a good argument. But there are also very different things about Anakin and Harry.

Anakin chose to leave his mother. If he would have stayed with her It could have changed what happened. Harry did not ask to be seperated from his parents. He never knew them.

I think what Anakin did out of anger was quite frankly, wrong. He blamed himself for her death, but he couldn't do anything about it. And then when people told him it wasn't his fault he blamed Obi Wan.

Sure Harry responded with an illegal curse but those are the ones that need to be used on people like Bellatrix, and she definately deserves it. Not saying thats right, but If someone killed the only member in my family who looked after me I would definately go nuts. I might be angry enough to use one. The thing with Anakin was that he wasn't even supposed to go and find his mother. Harry was there with all of them, Anakin was alone. Also Harry doesn't have much fear. Anakin had fear. If you remember in Star Wars: Episode 1 when Yoda says, "Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate.....leads to suffering" Anakins fear for the welfare of his mother was the fear and once something happened became angry at the sand people and slaughtered them and lost his mother (suffering).

I certainly do not think Harry will turn dark. With the people he is friends with and the strong hate for the Malfoys and Snape, you would think that he would be determined to fight the Dark side. (His want to become and Auror)

Well thats what I have to say. I really hope he doesn't go dark but you know JK has fooled us in the past.

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Muggle Joined: Jun 18, 2004 Posts: 13

I don't believe Harry will turn dark either. I also think the only conections between Harry and Anakin, is that they both got into serious situations when they were both at young ages and they have to deal with them as teenagers.

Anakin, as a Jedi, was taught not to have fear. As Yoda said in his big long sentence. Therefore, when he felt fear, he got angry at it and his anger made him dark.

Harry, on the otherhand, was not taught to not have fear. He was allowed to be afraid, and therefore draw courage from the fear.

So we have two different situations.

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Post subject: Re: Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 12:35 PM

No, I don't think Harry will turn evil. Because if he turned evil and joined Voldemort, the whole series would be kind of a let down. If JKR finished the books with Harry joining Voldemort, it would not be a good ending, because we would know that the entire magical community would probably die out. Also, what Harry did is not as bad; he didn't attempt to kill Bellatrix.

1st Year Joined: Jul 20, 2004 Posts: 29

Harry cannot turn evil, evil cannot triumph over good in the end. THat would just not be right. After all these books were originally written for children, Jo wouldn't do that...

Post subject: Dark Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 12:37 AM

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Harry cannot turn evil, evil cannot triumph over good in the end. THat would just not be right. After all these books were originally written for children, Jo wouldn't do that...

I agree, but you never know what might happen on the way! I'm sure Harry would never turn dark because of all that the Dark Arts has done to destroy his life. Plus he's probably too strong to be persuaded. But other that are not as strong might turn dark...

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Muggle Joined: Aug 10, 2004 Posts: 4

Actually, my mum wrote an article comparing Harry Potter to Star Wars. Her idea was that the reason Harry Potter was so popular was because it was written in movie format and is actually quite similar to Star Wars. Light sabers are wands and all like that. She seemed to have the idea that Harry was the equivelent to Luke... Dunno why though

1st Year Joined: Aug 24, 2004 Posts: 22

I just can't see it myself. Other than the fact that prophecies were made about both boys, the similarities end there. The Star Wars prophecy was about the one who will "bring balance to the Force". This is (wrongly) assumed to mean that the Force-balancer will bring to an end the evil in the galaxy. Of course, we know now that this "balance" was achieved by the advent of an equally strong evil force to counteract the harmonious forces of the Jedi.

In HP, on the other hand, JKR and Professor Trelawney make it quite clear that the final battle between HP and Voldemort will be the deciding factor as to which force will dominate the magical world. Voldemort is depicted as the ultimate evil, with Harry as the typical arch-rival -- good, but with superficial similarities to the villain substantial enough to give a reader (or a viewer) pause. I see where the connection could be made, but I don't personally see more than a tenuous connection between the two story arcs. (*On a personal note, I am very sad to come to this conclusion, because if there existed a strong, linear equivocation between HP and SW, we could deduce the plot lines of HBP and book 7 through careful analysis of "Empire Strikes Back" and "Return of the Jedi". But, no. We have to wait.)

Post subject: Re: Harry =Anakin? Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 05:03 AM

I also had the brief idea that harry might "go to the dark side". But after voicing it aloud, it sounded ridiculous. One, b/c there's not even a SPEC of evil in Harry, (I mean, Voldy's powers are kind of in him, but that doesn't count) but with Anakin, he was very rebellious and impulsive b4hand. Two, In Anakin's place, the bad guy WANTED him on his side, but in "Harry Potter", Voldy CLEARY wants him dead. Three, and I quote Siriusblacksassistant for this,

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Harry cannot turn evil, evil cannot triumph over good in the end. THat would just not be right. After all these books were originally written for children, Jo wouldn't do that...

There are also some more similarities--
1)Harry has a vison of Sirius suffering/dying, and in going to save him, ends up bringing about his death |vs.| Anakin has a vision of Padme suffering/dying, and in trying to save her, ends up bringing about her death.

2)Harry= is called "The chosen One" based on a prophesy, and is an angsty teenager, |vs.| Anakin= is called "The Chosen One" based on a prophesy, and is an angsty teenager.

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Post subject: Re: Harry =Anakin? Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 05:44 PM

I have no doubt that Harry will not go over to the dark side. He has had good people help him all the way so far, his parents, his godfather, Lupin and DD. I don't think he'd want to dissapoint them in any way.

I have noticed the similarities with Star Wars myself, good vs evil and such. I thought this while reading OOP when Voldemort put the vision of Sirius being tortured in Harry's mind. It remided me of when the emperor showed Anakin visions of Padme dying in childbirth.

Post subject: Re: Harry =Anakin? Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 02:53 AM

To keep on topic, I don't think Harry will turn dark. JKR's only got one book left; it'd be a major disappointment if Harry went to the dark side, and we were left like that. At least in Star Wars' Revenge of the Sith, the original trilogy still exists after that, so we know that everything turns out ok. In a way.

Anakin and Harry were both involved in "prophecies" as well. There was a prophecy about Anakin bringing balance to the Force (hence why he was called the Chosen One) and there was a prophecy about Harry killing Voldy, which would probably bring balance to the Wizarding world. This is also why he's called the Chosen One.

Post subject: Re: Harry =Anakin? Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 01:17 AM

HeatyRad, I agree with you mom, I see Harry more like Luke. Luke's caretakers, his aunt and uncle were killed. He has to defeat a dark Lord Vader. He has a wize and powerful teacher, in both movies played by Richard Harris. His friends Leia (Hermione) and Han (Ron) help him in his effort. I'm just glad there is not a Wookie, unless it is Hagrid.

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